Noise wasn't my tires???

[Duster]

Well that noise I've been hearing coming on slowly getting worse doesn't seem to be my tires.

I got new tires but I still have that womp womp womp or wah wah wah kind of sound going on. I have heard this before on other vehicles with worn tires or warped brake rotors.

I watched an online video that made me think it was wheel bearings although mine isn't as loud as the video was. So I jacked it up and shook the wheels. I don't find any play. Spinning the wheels all I can hear is what sounds like the pads skimming the rotor a little.

If I spin the wheel back and forth forward backwards I can hear a clunk that sounds like its at the inner ends of the cv axles both sides. Differential end, not wheel end.

I don't feel confident I know anything though after doing this.

All I know is it starts at like 15 or 20 mph and seems to pace with the wheel speed. I was asked if it changes when turning and it does have a different sound to it weaving back and forth. But I dunno. I need some help here.

 

[HoosierJeeper]

I'd take the brake pads off and spin the wheels. And sometimes bearings can be bad and still feel tight.

 

[Duster]

I'd take the brake pads off and spin the wheels. And sometimes bearings can be bad and still feel tight.

Thank you.

I was thinking it could be something like that I never encountered before like tight but still bad.

I can do that and I might can borrow a stethoscope from my kid too.

I just needed some specific direction. I am recovering from an injury so I can't just be crawling and rolling around playing shade tree mechanic here at home chasing my tail. If I do by the time I'd figure out what might be wrong I would be laid up and unable to fix it for a while. It's rough being busted up when you're over 40 lol.

 

[turblediesel]

Try being busted up after 50. I'm not even back from the 50s bust up and the 60s bust up is in sight just a little further down the hill coming up quickly. Don't know how those old farts do it.

Is your noise in the front or back? Does it change if you apply the parking brake, (button pushed and held)? Parking brakes and front driveline components can make odd noises. No personal experience there yet here. Any oil in the differentials?

Good luck healing!

 

[Duster]

Now that I have new tires and I'm paying more attention it seems to be in the front.

I found something I could stand to lay on and checked the 4x4 drive shaft. It's fine. When I spin it, I see that the clunk from turning the tire back and forth is the free play in the 4wd. That may even be normal.

No idea on the oil. Nothing would surprise me there considering that was part of the same mileage service where they just drained my catch bottle and put orange in as opposed to an actual flush and refill with red hoat coolant. Killed water pump and seals, what a mess to flush.

I might guess it wasn't even checked much less changed. Diff, transfer, trans, rear end. But I didn't think of it again since the water pump until today. Grrr

 

[Duster]

Sure enough... diagnosis not good.

Both front wheel bearings are going. The guy eventually had to resort to a stethoscope to figure it out. Ugg....

Anyways, I'm seeing a lot of different pricing on these hub assemblies, some good pricing, some painful pricing and some oh my gah pricing. Wondering now where I should get parts really... and also wondering if I should also replace the rotors and brakes in a case like this?

Mechanic also said my ball joints had just a tick of play in them as well so to keep them in mind and change them as well later on if not doing it all at the same time.

I'm a bit surprised that Mopar front ends still don't last.

 

[dude1116]

Sure enough... diagnosis not good.

Both front wheel bearings are going. The guy eventually had to resort to a stethoscope to figure it out. Ugg....

Anyways, I'm seeing a lot of different pricing on these hub assemblies, some good pricing, some painful pricing and some oh my gah pricing. Wondering now where I should get parts really... and also wondering if I should also replace the rotors and brakes in a case like this?

Mechanic also said my ball joints had just a tick of play in them as well so to keep them in mind and change them as well later on if not doing it all at the same time.

I'm a bit surprised that Mopar front ends still don't last.

Mine was pretty much stock until I lifted it and started replacing stuff. With the exception of my front CV axle, I never replaced a front end component until I lifted it at about 145k miles a little over a year ago.

Once I lifted it, I swapped UCAs and a tie rod. Steering rack seems to be shot now (as well as inner tie rods). All of that among other things. Wonder if I would have had these issues without lifting 4"?? Hmm...

 

[Duster]

I am going to go out on a limb and say it would have likely been the same outcome.

I've never had anything but Mopar have the front end start going south a bit over 100k especially not on a daily driver.

This has been a good vehicle so far, but I think I need to start researching what kind of mileage people are getting from these. I usually drive stuff to 200-300k without major issues or continous dollar to death little stuff.

 

[LibertyTC]

100k on bearings is not bad considering some Pu's need em every 40 k...
Overall the Kj is pretty sturdy, and like any vehicle, parts do wear out.
I guess every once in a while, you have to be prepared to..