Thoughts on American Racing AR625 Outlaw II Wheels?

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I thought that extra half-inch was sucked in, not stuck out. Maybe I don't understand just how that works. :help:

Backspacing is the distance between the inner edge of the rim to the mounting surface. So...the bigger the backspacing, the more tucked in the wheel will be.

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Offset, on the other hand, is the distance (usually in mm) from the very center point of the rim to the mounting surface. This means you can have a positive or negative offset. A positive offset will pull the wheel in more (equivalent to more backspacing), while a negative offset will push the wheel out more (equivalent to less backspacing).

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I thought that extra half-inch was sucked in, not stuck out. Maybe I don't understand just how that works. :help:

Used the wrong term , sorry to confuse you
so you are right it does set in but also like I suggested could cause some issues depending on tire sizes used
 

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Used the wrong term , sorry to confuse you
so you are right it does set in but also like I suggested could cause some issues depending on tire sizes used

You were right the first time. It will be an extra half inch out since it's an 8 inch wheel. 8 inch wheels should ideally have 5" of backspacing, correct?
 

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Backspacing is the distance between the inner edge of the rim to the mounting surface. So...the bigger the backspacing, the more tucked in the wheel will be.
That's what I thought.

Used the wrong term , sorry to confuse you
so you are right it does set in but also like I suggested could cause some issues depending on tire sizes used
I understand the ideal wheel size would be 7" wide, but there's a lot of guys running 8" wide rims - even you, I think. So, extra care needs to be taken to get a tire that won't rub.

You were right the first time. It will be an extra half inch out since it's an 8 inch wheel. 8 inch wheels should ideally have 5" of backspacing, correct?
The math does indicate that a 5" BS would offset (no pun intended) the extra width. However, there seems to be more wheels with a 4.5" BS than a 5" BS. I wonder how much that limits the tire selection. The wheels cmclau5324 mentioned and I posted a picture of are in that category - 16x7" 4.5" BS. There should still be some tires available that will fit under the lifted KJ for that rim. I certainly hope so anyway. That's the size of the wheels I like - not the same wheels as above, but the same size.
 

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That's what I thought.


I understand the ideal wheel size would be 7" wide, but there's a lot of guys running 8" wide rims - even you, I think. So, extra care needs to be taken to get a tire that won't rub.


The math does indicate that a 5" BS would offset (no pun intended) the extra width. However, there seems to be more wheels with a 4.5" BS than a 5" BS. I wonder how much that limits the tire selection. The wheels cmclau5324 mentioned and I posted a picture of are in that category - 16x7" 4.5" BS. There should still be some tires available that will fit under the lifted KJ for that rim. I certainly hope so anyway. That's the size of the wheels I like - not the same wheels as above, but the same size.

I thought the wheels you posted were 16x8 with 4.5" BS. 16x7 with 4.5" of BS should in theory work (I believe stock wheels are 16x7 with 4.5 or 5" of BS.)

Tom was noting that there's a limit in tire sizes just from the 8 inch wheel. That's the only reason why the 8 inch wheel isn't ideal. 7 inch wheels are ideal because you can safely run tire sizes that are smaller if you have a smaller amount of lift. IE 245/75 (albeit they work on an 8 inch rim but with barely any sidewall bulge), 245/70.

Most if not all of the sizes that work on an 8 inch wheel under a KJ can also be placed on a 7 inch wheel...but not vice-versa.

As a note - I am also running an 8 inch wide wheel...but the only size tire that I was even considering due to sidewall protection was 265/70. 265/75 would have been too big and I don't plan on ever regearing.
 
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That's what I thought.


I understand the ideal wheel size would be 7" wide, but there's a lot of guys running 8" wide rims - even you, I think. So, extra care needs to be taken to get a tire that won't rub.


The math does indicate that a 5" BS would offset (no pun intended) the extra width. However, there seems to be more wheels with a 4.5" BS than a 5" BS. I wonder how much that limits the tire selection. The wheels cmclau5324 mentioned and I posted a picture of are in that category - 16x7" 4.5" BS. There should still be some tires available that will fit under the lifted KJ for that rim. I certainly hope so anyway. That's the size of the wheels I like - not the same wheels as above, but the same size.

IF 7 inch wide not as much problem as 8 inch wide. 7 inch is perfect size and reason why I keep saying the Moabs would be perfect I think if they were 7 inches wide
 

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In a near perfect world ( for a lifted KJ)
7 inch wide wheel with 4 inches of backspacing
or if running 265-70-16s etc
8 inch with 5 inches of backspacing
so........a 7 inch with 4.5 would work great
an 8 inch with 4.5 would set the wheel 1/2 inch further and would cause (or could, have to be politically correct anymore ) when stuffing in the rear espicially.
In an instance like this ( was testing for height needed for bumpstops )
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8 inch wide / 5 inches of backspacing/ 265-75-16
 
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