02 Liberty 3.7 temperature goes down on highway

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I have a 2002 Jeep Liberty with the 3.7l
Engine has 2900 miles on it. (Yes 2900)
Engine was brand new no parts re-used.
It's particularly cold here in Ohio and I noticed when I drive on the highway, the temp gauge goes down. I do not lose heat or anything. Jeep runs fine.
I've only noticed this when the weather got cold about 3 months ago.
Jeep set CEL about 2 weeks ago for engine being cold too long
Dealer reset the light and hasn't come back
Coolant level is fine, etc

Just want to know if this is something to worry about.


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Chance your thermostat's not quite what it should be. Other option would be a piece of cardboard slid between grille and radiator. Keep close eye on gauge and adjust cardboard size till it stays where you want it. (Big trucks have temp controlled shutters to regulate air flow through radiator)

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^^^^ I would not suggest the cardboard^^^^ mine runs cooler this time of year at highway speeds (but just a few degrees) And thats before and after new thermostat and coolant. If this is a dealer installed engine and its a more signifigant problem than this take it back to them to be checked.
 

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Just change the thermostat....it's kept in opened position so, fresh refrigerant runs smoothly thru it and keeps all systems in lower temperature.
 

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I have a 2002 Jeep Liberty with the 3.7l
Engine has 2900 miles on it. (Yes 2900)
Engine was brand new no parts re-used.
It's particularly cold here in Ohio and I noticed when I drive on the highway, the temp gauge goes down. I do not lose heat or anything. Jeep runs fine.
I've only noticed this when the weather got cold about 3 months ago.
Jeep set CEL about 2 weeks ago for engine being cold too long
Dealer reset the light and hasn't come back
Coolant level is fine, etc

Just want to know if this is something to worry about.


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Do you actually know it goes down?
Do you have an actual gauge on it to see how many degrees it goes down?
The gauge on the dash is an idiot gauge at best , if you had a scangauge etc hooked up it would show exactly . I run one on all of mine to show all temps/ inlet temp/ etc
 

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I also have a scan gauge into OBD2 Port. It stays in Jeep and reads well, on all the time.
If a new thermostat is needed, be sure to buy the Mopar 195 degree with bleed hole & exact fit rubber gasket.
 

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I've had the Garmin Mechanic (similar to the Scangauge) and it is normal to see the actual coolant temperature on my 2007 vary between 175 and 219 during the winter. Creeping through Christmas traffic (my office building is next to a major mall) I would get the high end. Barreling down the highway, the low end.

Like the others mentioned, don't trust the idiot gauge. :)
 

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Drove home from work yesterday, temp gauge stayed at half


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I have an 03 Liberty and just had the thermostat replaced a couple weeks ago because it was tripping the CEL for running too cold too long (stuck open). I had already replaced it a couple years ago but evidently these particular MOPAR thermostats are utter garbage and only expected to last a couple years. It runs fine now (no engine codes). But at highway speeds, especially above 70 mph or so, it runs cold, just a bit over the 1/4 mark on the temp gauge. But it doesn't trip the CEL like it used to and the mpg hasn't gone down. Today it was about 39 outside, so not horribly cold, and it got up to full temp before I got on the highway in a reasonable amount of time. And it did warm back up once I got OFF the highway to just a hair below the halfway mark (the optimal temp).

I can go up to about 55 without the temp gauge moving significantly below the optimal range. And if it is 45 or warmer outside it never moves once warmed up.

At this point I am guessing this is normal for a Liberty as I go through this mess every winter. Some winters it trips the code (and I have the thermostat replaced) but other winters it just runs cold on chilly nights.

I wonder if the CEL only trips when the thermostat actually is stuck open. But how does it know if it is actually stuck open or if it is just really cold outside? What I would like to understand is which particular sensor tells the Jeep to set the code in the first place, and how that sensor works. Is it merely temperature? If that is the case, why wouldn't it trip today after the temp went down (probably drove 15 miles with the temp low)? Is there a way the computer knows if the coolant is actually flowing and stopping (i.e., the thermostat is actually working normally) such that it makes an exception?

On a side note, after the repair, I noticed the bleed screw (near the upper hose) was weeping a lot (I noted the smell of evaporating coolant and could see the white tracks of the dripping fluid around the part to which the upper hose connects). I tightened it up with my hex wrench and it still bleeds just a little. Is there something I should do to seal the threads better? Plumber's thread tape perhaps?

Thinking about affixing some plastic-core to the front grille to slow airflow around the radiator for the winter. Should last a lot longer than cardboard and it isn't flammable. Sold at most craft stores. Easy to cut with scissors. I could even cut it into strips and use black wire ties to fit it inside the spaces in the plastic grill fascia (keeping it well clear of the radiator itself). During moderate weather I get close to 20 mpg highway. This winter I am lucky to eek out 18.8 (probably because it isn't running at optimal temp).
 
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And are you using the right type of coolant?

Mine even driving in subzero temps for two hours never leaves its normal spot.
 

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Yeah, I've been through extended periods of sub-zero temperatures and once the engine is warm enough to center the needle it stays there. Something else is going on.
 
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