Bilstein pre build?

[AFT2008KK]

Hey all. 1st post here. Working on Ole Blue. 2008 KK ltd 4wd. Has been in family since new. Has 123k on the clock. Stock and OEM equivalent.

I havent found the answer to this. I apologize if my search query missed it.

Its time to lift. Will be going with the Bilstein 5100 and OME springs front and rear.

The question is what parts do i need to prebuild the front coil over assemblies before dismantling the old parts? Id just like to go out with the old & in with the new. Im at the age / stage where using old parts doesn’t make sense.

If anyone has a listing of parts / #s id appreciate it.

See you out on the trail.
Adam.

 

[klc]

Springs and shocks are all you need if the mounting hardware is in good shape.

 

[lfhoward]

FYI the Bilstein 5100 kit is not true coilovers. It functions like a spacer lift, which will come with a bunch of issues. Go with OME springs and regular Bilstein front shocks, as klc says above.

Bilstein even adverizes this kit as a spacer kit alternative. The reason it is is because the kit preloads the springs (keeps them in a squished state) to get the extra height, like a spacer lift would do. Spacer lifts in Liberties are known to have a rough ride and wear out springs quicker. A true spring lift kit like OME would get you a much better riding Jeep, more articulation off road, and your springs, shocks, and bushings will live longer.

 

[sleazy rider]

He will need the upper shock mounts to pre-build the front stuff.

 

[AFT2008KK]

Good points. So when you say regular Bilstien, which do you mean. The 4600s??

 

[lfhoward]

I believe so. OME also makes good quality shocks. For the rear you will need the L longer shocks to accommodate the lift, but the front works fine with regular length shocks.

For bump stops, you can call Teraflex to order extended front ones, even though they are not on the website. For rear bump stops, you can bolt a pair of hockey pucks to the lower spring perch on each side.

 

[lfhoward]

He will need the upper shock mounts to pre-build the front stuff.

If he can take his old spring & shock assemblies into a garage, they can reassemble the springs and shocks using the original top plates. Much better than using a DIY spring compressor (very dangerous), but granted, not as convenient as having everything pre-assembled.

 

[AFT2008KK]

I believe so. OME also makes good quality shocks. For the rear you will need the L longer shocks to accommodate the lift, but the front works fine with regular length shocks.

For bump stops, you can call Teraflex to order extended front ones, even though they are not on the website. For rear bump stops, you can bolt a pair of hockey pucks to the lower spring perch on each side.

Ive seen that about the bump stop / pucks. I have some at home. Standard black pucks. Not the orange practice ones.

Ill check in w/ terraflex. I didn’t see them on the site.

 

[AFT2008KK]

If he can take his old spring & shock assemblies into a garage, they can reassemble the springs and shocks using the original top plates. Much better than using a DIY spring compressor (very dangerous), but granted, not as convenient as having everything pre-assembled.

That was the plan.

 

[sleazy rider]

If he can take his old spring & shock assemblies into a garage, they can reassemble the springs and shocks using the original top plates. Much better than using a DIY spring compressor (very dangerous), but granted, not as convenient as having everything pre-assembled.

I’m just going with his statement and agree. New is normally better than a part with over 100k on it if you’re rebuilding the system.

He. Could also take all the new stuff to a shop and have the same thing done.

 

[sleazy rider]

Ive seen that about the bump stop / pucks. I have some at home. Standard black pucks. Not the orange practice ones.

Ill check in w/ terraflex. I didn’t see them on the site.

You actually have to call them. Not on the website for sale.

 

[AFT2008KK]

I’m just going with his statement and agree. New is normally better than a part with over 100k on it if you’re rebuilding the system.

He. Could also take all the new stuff to a shop and have the same thing done.

That was my original plan. I will be sure to have all the parts from top to bottom. Clevis will most likely be only part reused.

 

[AFT2008KK]

You actually have to call them. Not on the website for sale.

Noted

 

[tommudd]

Buy top plates, upper and lower isolators , 4600 Bilstein shocks , 927s OME, Teraflex front bumpstops
That way you can carry all in, have them assemble everything then drive home and install
isolators are already several years old so replace them

 

[AFT2008KK]

Buy top plates, upper and lower isolators , 4600 Bilstein shocks , 927s OME, Teraflex front bumpstops
That way you can carry all in, have them assemble everything then drive home and install
isolators are already several years old so replace them

Thank you for the shopping list. I appreciate your input @tommudd. I’ve read lots of your posts & answers here and elsewhere that always are on target. All noted.

 

[02projectkj]

Buy top plates, upper and lower isolators , 4600 Bilstein shocks , 927s OME, Teraflex front bumpstops
That way you can carry all in, have them assemble everything then drive home and install
isolators are already several years old so replace them

Would you recommend the 927s even if you’re running completely stock front setup with no extra weight? Or would 926s be better in that scenario?

 

[duderz7]

Would you recommend the 927s even if you’re running completely stock front setup with no extra weight? Or would 926s be better in that scenario?

I'm running 927 on mine, no fancy bumper or winch, it does have stock skid plates, but they don't weigh much. It is a very smooth ride, not over sprung at all.

 

[02projectkj]

Thanks for the input!

 

[klc]

I have 927’s up front, a vast improvement over the worn-out originals.

 

[02projectkj]

Is the 927/948 combo the most common here? I’ll be running minimal extra weight. Stock bumpers, no winch, minimal recovery gear. Just larger rims/tires but not ridiculously large. Also, it seems like the n132l shocks have been discontinued. Is there an equally good option for rear shocks?