I'll keep it clean, but I will add my own comments seeing I've been called a *******!
Newton’s third law of motion for every action there is an equal and opposite reaction.
Coming from a member with only 11 posts here, I doubt your authenticity
waywardtravel!
Oh yea, lots of posts or high thread count = smart thing again.
Please allow me to authenticate
I should have said around 50mpg because thats what I meant BUT
http://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/download.shtml
Click on 1978 data
1978 Volkswagen diesel Rabbit 40/53
1978 Volkswagen gas 39/53
1978 Datsun B210 36/48
1978 Dodge colt 34/45
1978 Honda Civic 36/44
1978 Plymouth Lancer 34/45
1978 Subaru 31/46
1978 Ford Fiesta 33/46
You were talking about American vehicles...
Now suddenly you are talking about Honda's?
Re-read auto manufacturers “cars,trucks, and Jeeps” not American cars, trucks, and Jeeps but read on.
Which were total POS rust buckets in the 1970's that got 50 mph?
That consumed how much engine oil?
Oh now you agree. 50mpg in the 70’s
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Or were you even old enough to even know this from first hand experience when the Honda's from the '70 were new?
:smokin: now you remember ahhh the 70's I forgot
No I was born in 1972. My buddy had a Honda CCVC in high school around 1988 if that counts for anything. But at 26yrs old I had about 30 “how would you know you weren‘t born yet” engineers working under me which I hired and fired often due to lack of skill.
Proof waywardtravel,
Show us the facts with actual data sheets from the 1970's that document 50+ mpg before you call my wife then me a ********.
See above data it’s from 1978 EPA measurements. I can not supply anything prior to 1978 because you would reject it’s authenticity but, yes tons of cars and even the big three, Ford fiesta’s, Chevy Luv, and Dodge colt surpassed 50mpg and in 1979 the cars were more efficient but the data is more difficult because the EPA went to a combined mpg measurement. In 1972 the Honda 600’s smaller engine 347cc (civic) had a two cylinder, achieved 130mpg and was produced and sold to the public in Australia. It only could do that at 30mph though. the 600 was more world wide but only achieved about 65mpg before the energy crisis.
You know I really mean you not your wife.
"A clue as to what I'm talking about"...
Do you know what Secondary education I have in the automotive industry to insult me?
I’m not what you would classify as politically correct. I’m not doubting your education, only what you remember from actually being their. Refer back to Newton’s third law of motion as stated above. Some of the dumbest people I’ve met in real world experiences have Masters degrees.
Go buy another Chevy and leave the Jeeps to real Jeep enthusiasts!
I’ve owned 5 jeeps so far and currently have two. In the last five months I’ve spent around $8000.00 in jeep parts toying with my Jeeps. Define "real enthusiasts" for me please.
And stick to marine Engineering...
Boats and Jeeps have nothing in common!
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Ignorance is bliss.:happy175::happy175::whip:
I work on a boat that has an five engines, alternators, starters, hydraulics, wires, multiple bus can's, tons of electric motors, tempered glass, gas struts, hydraulic disc shaft brakes, I could parallel forever. Then add ton's more marine specific. Try provisioning and taking about 5cars and trucks towing or carrying 3 homes off road with all their associated systems to the middle of no where and make everything work for four months with no mechanical interuptions or down days. That's what a marine engineer does. (the good ones anyway)
My education was first Vocational automotive even had some ASE certs in the early 90‘s, then electronics (board level) then marine engineering (the book and hands on kind) I've always been a mechanic per say and probably the largest carbon footprint of anyone I know unless you give me carbon credits for the amount of engines I've tuned or repaired in effect cleaning the environment. I’ve hand built two high ten second cars though not jeep’s.
I'll just have to get my post count up so can be smarter though.
All said I don't know s##t about the Liberty YET. but the forums have people with unlimited knowledge so I like and respect them.
