Grinding Noise with caravan

Disclaimer: Links on this page pointing to Amazon, eBay and other sites may include affiliate code. If you click them and make a purchase, we may earn a small commission.

sleazy rider

Retired moto tech and gearhead
Joined
Dec 8, 2020
Messages
540
Reaction score
499
Location
SE Michigan
Yeah this is all something I know nothing about and don’t have the space to do it. Even so the clicking and god awful sound in 4wd having done a search sounds like the driveshaft CV. Just wondering what else it could be that may cause it in 2wd
Front driveshaft turns ALL the time. 2w/4w, it spins.
 

KJowner

Full Access Member
Joined
Oct 20, 2022
Messages
1,451
Reaction score
832
Location
Uk
The belt drive should make similar noise all the time, the only additional load would be the cooling fan if towing at low speed.
The noise you described sounds more like driveline, unfortunately its going to need investigating properly. Clattering and banging could well be a CV joint or a UJ on one of the propshafts, quite a cheap fix.
 

sota

Full Access Member
Joined
Apr 6, 2011
Messages
2,398
Reaction score
1,252
Location
NJ
Front driveshaft turns ALL the time. 2w/4w, it spins.
Yes, but he did indicate that he put it in 4 and it made a racket. when in 2 it's spinning but not coupled (freewheeling). when in 4 it's locked in and will start putting force through the front driveshaft.

@DazzlerB1 if it were me, I'd pull the front driveshaft and take it for a ride. you can run around without it indefinitely, you just won't have 4WD capability. :D
 

DazzlerB1

Member
Joined
Dec 31, 2022
Messages
35
Reaction score
5
So the Jeep is back in the garage. (Actually had a look for issues) and the list comprises of…….

Rear Diff clicking o/s outer rear shaft.
Prop shaft gaiter gone, flange noisey.
Transfer box slack, noisy.
Front Diff leaking


So my question, they are struggling to find parts. Without measuring the prop shaft I’m not sure what one to order, the others what should I suggest to the garage, and where in the UK can I get parts etc?
 

KJowner

Full Access Member
Joined
Oct 20, 2022
Messages
1,451
Reaction score
832
Location
Uk
Wheel bearing at the rear I would think, probably the front CV joint on the front prop?? Front diff, where is the leak?? The seals are all available, the pan is just a bead of instant gasket.
All the bits above are common service items and ready available, a motor factor should be able to order them for you or an online Jeep specialist, they certainly aren't hard to find, don't be tempted by cheap Chinese bits, they are rubbish and don't last.
The transfer box could be expensive, change the oil & see what the old oil looks like, it probably hasn't been done recently...
If you are lucky it may just be transferred noise from the CV joint.
It's worth changing gear oils regularly, they often get forgotten.
 

DazzlerB1

Member
Joined
Dec 31, 2022
Messages
35
Reaction score
5
Wheel bearing at the rear I would think, probably the front CV joint on the front prop?? Front diff, where is the leak?? The seals are all available, the pan is just a bead of instant gasket.
All the bits above are common service items and ready available, a motor factor should be able to order them for you or an online Jeep specialist, they certainly aren't hard to find, don't be tempted by cheap Chinese bits, they are rubbish and don't last.
The transfer box could be expensive, change the oil & see what the old oil looks like, it probably hasn't been done recently...
If you are lucky it may just be transferred noise from the CV joint.
It's worth changing gear oils regularly, they often get forgotten.
That’s what I thought, possible wheel bearing at the rear. The CV I believe is the front Propshaft but the rear into the transfer case. I’m possibly going to replace the whole Propshaft. They didn’t say where the leak was. I was thinking could be the Pinion seal? With what they said “slack” it sounds like the chain is loose? I don’t think it ever has been to be honest.
 

KJowner

Full Access Member
Joined
Oct 20, 2022
Messages
1,451
Reaction score
832
Location
Uk
2
That’s what I thought, possible wheel bearing at the rear. The CV I believe is the front Propshaft but the rear into the transfer case. I’m possibly going to replace the whole Propshaft. They didn’t say where the leak was. I was thinking could be the Pinion seal? With what they said “slack” it sounds like the chain is loose? I don’t think it ever has been to be honest.
The CV joint is cheap and easy to replace, I just popped a new one onto mine, a worn chain means transfer case rebuild, never done one but there is almost certainly information on here about it, I doubt it's particularly difficult to do, Jeeps are much like Land Rovers - big meccano sets!
But I would still do the other bits & change the oil first before pulling the gearbox out unless it's obviously knackered.
 

DazzlerB1

Member
Joined
Dec 31, 2022
Messages
35
Reaction score
5
2

The CV joint is cheap and easy to replace, I just popped a new one onto mine, a worn chain means transfer case rebuild, never done one but there is almost certainly information on here about it, I doubt it's particularly difficult to do, Jeeps are much like Land Rovers - big meccano sets!
But I would still do the other bits & change the oil first before pulling the gearbox out unless it's obviously knackered.
Where did you get your new one from? I’m going to ask the garage to do the CV joint, find where the diff is leaking and re-oil, check noise on rear diff (wheel bearing) and re oil and change the oil in the transfer case.
 

KJowner

Full Access Member
Joined
Oct 20, 2022
Messages
1,451
Reaction score
832
Location
Uk
I used Jeepchryslerparts.co.uk for the CV.
The wheel bearing runs directly on the axle shaft so check it for damage, there is an offset bearing available if the shaft is damaged.
 

DazzlerB1

Member
Joined
Dec 31, 2022
Messages
35
Reaction score
5
I used Jeepchryslerparts.co.uk for the CV.
The wheel bearing runs directly on the axle shaft so check it for damage, there is an offset bearing available if the shaft is damaged.
Thank you. Spoke to garage this morning, the rear Diff is a noise from the internal, what could this possible be? I’ve asked for the oil to be replaced on it
 

KJowner

Full Access Member
Joined
Oct 20, 2022
Messages
1,451
Reaction score
832
Location
Uk
What noise is it making? lots of UK spec Jeeps have an LSD, old or incorrect oil will make a groaning noise when you turn. Other noises will be bearing or gear related. It's odd they described it as an outboard noise initially ?
 

DazzlerB1

Member
Joined
Dec 31, 2022
Messages
35
Reaction score
5
What noise is it making? lots of UK spec Jeeps have an LSD, old or incorrect oil will make a groaning noise when you turn. Other noises will be bearing or gear related. It's odd they described it as an outboard noise initially ?
a clicking noise they said. I’ve asked them to change the oil in the front and rear diff, replace the pinion seal and they said the CV joint needs doing. Ive decided even though a bit more money to get a new Propshaft for it. Just need them to confirm what size I require. Unless anyone knows what size goes into the 2.8 crd. Fingers crossed it may be ok and last two more holidays before it’s moved on
 

KJowner

Full Access Member
Joined
Oct 20, 2022
Messages
1,451
Reaction score
832
Location
Uk
Are they sure it's not a wheel bearing? They have to dump the oil to pull axle shaft so worth getting it checked first!
 

DazzlerB1

Member
Joined
Dec 31, 2022
Messages
35
Reaction score
5
Pass. I can ask them to check, but either way I’m still getting the Diff oil changed, don’t think this has ever been done and the jeeps on 129,000 miles
 

DazzlerB1

Member
Joined
Dec 31, 2022
Messages
35
Reaction score
5
Just an update, Jeep is now complete CV joint was destroyed, the boot had completely torn off there was no movement. Ended up purchasing a whole new propshaft, the front diff was leaking so replaced the pinion seal. Renewed the oil in front and rear diff and transfer case! Next, refit the transmission dipstick! Thank you all for your help
 
Top