H&R Spring Review

[tommudd]

Hey Tom
Do you want to sell one of the sets of JBA’s

No, not at this time

 

[Deb'nKJ]

I guess that's why he mentioned it

 

[tommudd]

I guess that's why he mentioned it

I have lots of parts
I just mentioned it because................................................................................................
Oh well if you have to make a comment you would not understand anyways LOL

But I was going to sell them but remembered people do not want to pay going price for anything so decided against it
Like having an offer for both front and rear 4.10 diffs for 300 bucks LOL
Get more out of junk prices for all the stuff I have than worrying around selling it for nothing

 

[wheeee32]

Hey Tom. Check your messages. I was asking about some parts you listed for sale.

 

[Komarengi]

Can you tell me which shock absorbers would be the best to install with a lift hr?

 

[Erskine]

Can you tell me which shock absorbers would be the best to install with a lift hr?

Standard OEM length Bilsteins or equivalent quality.

 

[Erskine]

20k Miles update:
Still sitting at 20" all round.
I really can not fault them. They are progressive springs and that's how they ride. I go off road every day and into 4wd minimum of twice a week. Nothing heroic like the Paris-Dakar but very poor tracks, potholed roads, boggy fields and lots of floods. Towing horse box and trailers fine.
Excellent manners on the motorway.
The springs suit standard Bilsteins very well, the ride height looks great with standard tyres.
Highly recommended.

 

[Squamish_Steffen]

Well, I finally managed to bottom-out the front without bumpstops! I haven't run front bumps in over a year now (mostly because I lost them tbh) and its never been an issue, even at the most offcamber ditch-crossing angle I'm willing to go (which might be tame compared to some). But last month I was on a slow highway, about 70 km/h, and hit this massive concave section of the road. Felt like the perfect combo of speed and geometry to compress the front springs maximally. Anyway the front-drivers tire skimmed the plastic fender directly above the wheel. No harm, but not comforting.

The bumpstops are back in stock now at a reasonable price so I'll get those back on for prosperity sake. Its entirely a spring dependent situation of course. In this case I was running trimmed 927s (1.25 coils removed front the drivers spring) for a height around 20", with 245/75r16 tires, and swaybar on. I'm back on the H&R springs as of recently, with the front an inch higher, but my sense is that I may get critically deep into the travel a tiny bit easier now so better to be safe for a $60 expense.

Been thinking for months I need to circle back to this Forum to share some more thoughts on lifts. So I'll do that soon. Currently rolling on my 5th iteration of this KJ lift now, fml lol but I'm done now.

 

[Rstep21]

Hey Tom. Check your messages. I was asking about some parts you listed for sale.

Hey Tom
I am looking for some UCA’s for my KJ and wanted to know if you seen any around forsale?
Thanks

 

[Deb'nKJ]

I think you'll find that Tom's not frequenting the forum at the moment - & probably won't be for the foreseeable future. We'll just have to manage as best we can, 'cos the man needs his time & space.

 

[Rstep21]

Thanks sad to hear, I could always read his posts and knowledge. Hopefully everything will workout and he will be back. Thanks again.

 

[baja]

Hello everyone.
I will soon be doing a lift for KJ 2005, CRD
I don't want to spend a lot of money, so within 2 inches.
I was almost convinced to use H&R 40mm, but I would like the 31 inches to fit in... maybe Lovells 2", which supposedly gives 50mm?
If necessary, I will cut something.
My rim is 17" and the car will have a winch in the original car in the future. It is possible to add several dozen kg to the roof (light trunk, transport box, awning)
questions:
1. Isn't HR& too soft for such a set?
2. Will it be enough for 31 inches? (245/75r17)
3. I read that I can leave the original shocks. There is not enough budget for a Bilstein, so I will either wait and change the shock absorbers for the next season, or maybe there is a replacement from another car whose shock absorbers have nice operating characteristics. Everything in the Vitara is foreign (e.g. Skoda Fabia, probably something different from Mercedes, etc.) I can't find such patents here.
4. If not H&R (because it is too soft or too low), then Lovells +2 or Ironman +2 are better?. And more HD or MD?
Apparently some of them gives out more than 2 inches, some less....

Thank you for your help

 

[derekj]

Hello everyone.
I will soon be doing a lift for KJ 2005, CRD
I don't want to spend a lot of money, so within 2 inches.
I was almost convinced to use H&R 40mm, but I would like the 31 inches to fit in... maybe Lovells 2", which supposedly gives 50mm?
If necessary, I will cut something.
My rim is 17" and the car will have a winch in the original car in the future. It is possible to add several dozen kg to the roof (light trunk, transport box, awning)
questions:
1. Isn't HR& too soft for such a set?
2. Will it be enough for 31 inches? (245/75r17)
3. I read that I can leave the original shocks. There is not enough budget for a Bilstein, so I will either wait and change the shock absorbers for the next season, or maybe there is a replacement from another car whose shock absorbers have nice operating characteristics. Everything in the Vitara is foreign (e.g. Skoda Fabia, probably something different from Mercedes, etc.) I can't find such patents here.
4. If not H&R (because it is too soft or too low), then Lovells +2 or Ironman +2 are better?. And more HD or MD?
Apparently some of them gives out more than 2 inches, some less....

Thank you for your help

Your best bet for lift springs will be the OME options - they have a spring just for the CRD's as well to handle the extra weight of the engine.

 

[KJowner]

Your best bet for lift springs will be the OME options - they have a spring just for the CRD's as well to handle the extra weight of the engine.

H&R are rated for the CRD too.

And I'd think twice about not doing the front shocks at the same time, as they are coil overs they are the first part of the whole assembly so you would have to do the entire job again including the alignment. And as you will see repeated many times on here, fit extended bump stops too or you will wreck your new shocks very quickly.

 

[baja]

H&R are rated for the CRD too.

And I'd think twice about not doing the front shocks at the same time, as they are coil overs they are the first part of the whole assembly so you would have to do the entire job again including the alignment. And as you will see repeated many times on here, fit extended bump stops too or you will wreck your new shocks very quickly.

thanks for the information.
so leave the old shock absorbers in the back and put new ones in the front. any specific ones?

4 H&R springs = $312

4 sets of Lovells = $387

4 ironman springs = $500

4 Ome springs = $637

That's why I'm strongly considering H&R if they do the job and with my limited budget it's not worth paying for more expensive ones.

 

[derekj]

thanks for the information.
so leave the old shock absorbers in the back and put new ones in the front. any specific ones?

4 H&R springs = $312

4 sets of Lovells = $387

4 ironman springs = $500

4 Ome springs = $637

That's why I'm strongly considering H&R if they do the job and with my limited budget it's not worth paying for more expensive ones.

The Bilstein yellow sport shocks or OME for the front and you will probably want an extended length shock for the rear as well. The most common replacement is the Bilstein yellows for a 99 Dodge Dakota 4x4 rear - OME makes an extended rear shock as well, but seems to not be available anymore. If you search in this section of the forum many people have posted the part numbers for the Bilstein shocks.

 

[baja]

so, when using H&R springs, I can ride on the original shocks, but it is recommended to install other shocks due to their longer length, right? I understand that when looking for shocks for KJ crd, I will receive results of normal length, so I have to look for another car (the above-mentioned 99 Dakota for the rear) and something else for the front. Am I understanding correctly? (Sorry for questioning, but I use a translator to communicate and I want to be sure that I connect the facts correctly...)

 

[KJowner]

so, when using H&R springs, I can ride on the original shocks, but it is recommended to install other shocks due to their longer length, right? I understand that when looking for shocks for KJ crd, I will receive results of normal length, so I have to look for another car (the above-mentioned 99 Dakota for the rear) and something else for the front. Am I understanding correctly? (Sorry for questioning, but I use a translator to communicate and I want to be sure that I connect the facts correctly...)

I don't think extended front shocks are available.

 

[Squamish_Steffen]

H&R are rated for the CRD too.

Do they have a different model for the CRD?
Because the H&R springs I have, though I highly recommend them, would almost certainly get squished under the weight of a substantially heavier engine. I cannot imagine them being appropriate for a CRD - speculating based on some weights and springrate values I've seen elsewhere.

 

[KJowner]

Do they have a different model for the CRD?
Because the H&R springs I have, though I highly recommend them, would almost certainly get squished under the weight of a substantially heavier engine. I cannot imagine them being appropriate for a CRD - speculating based on some weights and springrate values I've seen elsewhere.

I spoke to H&R directly, they say the 29203-1 set is rated for the diesel, I suppose that they would make them to suit as the vast majority of jeeps in Europe are diesel.the spring ratings they quote back it up too. Can't comment from experience yet as I still haven't got round to fitting a set on mine! I always seem to have 101 other jobs to do, hopefully this summer I'll get round to it.