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Ive done just about all the 'offroad/exterior' mods that I believe Im going to do to my Jeep. Ive got rocker rails, lift and spare suspension parts, extra set of rims, locker, skids, hitch, tow hooks, etc, but now Im going to start some performance mods.

I just ordered a shift kit for my 42rle and a Flow Master Muffler.. :Dwrc.gifnana.gif\\:D/

Next Ill either get a new throttle body or get my PCM reprogrammed. Im not sure if I want to spend enough money to get both, so Im waiting on some responses on how the B&G programmed PCM does. The throttle body is $180 with core and the B&G PCM is $450 but thats ONLY the reprogramming. That doesnt include buying the new PCM and the labor to get the dealer to put the Vin and keys put on it. I of course will do all the work myself...

Im sure the new PCM would give a greater increase in performance, but idk about that thing. There are only two people that I know that have it.. Idk what it will do to the Jeep in the long run.. I may just see what the shift kit and muffler do then decide what to do after that..
 
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Ok, so you just ordered the shift kit and flowmaster so what are you going to do first? The first one you get?

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Muffler. I want to wait till 30k and Ive only got 26k on the Jeep. I also need to order $90 worth of Amsoil ****** oil. Thats enough to do the ****** and the tcase. Not to sure if I should get enough to flush the ****** or enough to just drop the pan. I would only need 8quarts if I drop the pan(5quarts) and change the tcase(2 quarts?). Thats an extra quart for the heck of it. The $90 included enough to flush the ******.. Got to wait and see how much $$ I make at my summer job to decide other things like that.. :)

Ive heard mixed reviews about mixing amsoil with the fluid thats already in the ******.. Got any advice on that tjkj?

Hopefully the flowmaster will get here by the weekend.. :D
 
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When I was at Advance Auto parts I saw Valvoline ATF+4 for $3.98 a quart. That means that the Amsoil better be 2 1/2 times better since it costs 2 1/2 times more. I'm not trying to tell you which is better but just making a price comparison. Also to do a true comparison with the shift kit I would think that you should consider a full change including filter and use the ATF+4. I'm just thinking out loud here.

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Ive already got the filter and gasket for the ****** so I will be changing those for sure.. Theyve also got Mopar oil at walmart.. Decisions decisions..
 

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Muffler. I want to wait till 30k and Ive only got 26k on the Jeep. I also need to order $90 worth of Amsoil ****** oil. Thats enough to do the ****** and the tcase. Not to sure if I should get enough to flush the ****** or enough to just drop the pan. I would only need 8quarts if I drop the pan(5quarts) and change the tcase(2 quarts?). Thats an extra quart for the heck of it. The $90 included enough to flush the ******.. Got to wait and see how much $$ I make at my summer job to decide other things like that.. :)

Ive heard mixed reviews about mixing amsoil with the fluid thats already in the ******.. Got any advice on that tjkj?

Hopefully the flowmaster will get here by the weekend.. :D
The 42RLE takes about 12-14qts of ATF+4 so do a proper ****** flush and get all the fluid exchanged you will need about 18-22qts of fliud to flush through it.Doing a ****** flush wastes alot of fluid but gets all new fluid in the ******.I have never done a drop the pan and replace the filter than add 5-7qts(depending on ******) type of maintance so I can't say for sure.Many have been doing the drop and refill for years and the Amsoil is a universal ATF so it will mix with all ****** fliuds so you should be safe.Just know that a drop and refill with refilling with Amsoil is kinda pointless unless you do a flush,your not going to get the full benifit of the Amsoil unless you replace all the ****** fluid,the drain and refill times(and milage) will be the same until all the fluid is replaced(about 5-6 drop and refills to completelly replace all the fluid).That's why ****** flushes are so much more expensive than regulaer ****** service,plus the ****** flush machines cost about $3000-$5000.
 
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I have done several "drop the pan and change the filter and add fluid to top off" changes in the past with other vehicles with no problems. I never did a complete flush. I think you pretty much need the machine as tjkj said to do a proper complete flush. .... That said, since you are installing a shift kit I would lean towards a complete flush and change the filter using ATF+4. Just thinking out loud here. As tjkj said, the Amsoil will mix so you could use that.

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Talk to Jon (JJsKJ)....he's the Amsoil nut, and i'm sure he can answer all your problems as far as there being problems with mixing it with the chrysler stuff thats already in there. I think he's done a flush on his KJ's and not had any problems.

Where'd ya order the flow from?
 

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Got the flowmaster from summit.

Charges for your order include the following:

Parts: $92.95
Handling: $10.95
Ground Shipping charges: **FREE**

Current charges to your credit card are:
$103.90

At least it has Free shipping. :rolleyes:

Thanks tjkj.. Ive talked to JJskj, hes the one that gave me the quote on the price. He also said it would be ok to mix the Amsoil.. Ill decide if I want a flush when the time comes to put it in.
 

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I'm game for doing the full ****** flush too. Knowing that your installing a new shift kit would make it more ideal to do the full flush. I did a ****** flush from my local shop when I hit 40K. I'm due for another one. I've thought about dropping the pan and such but this time I may want to add Amsoil......I'm thinking of going that route with everything.
 

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Which flowmaster is it? Is it the 50 we've been hearing about
 

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Phil....
I asked maineke for welding labor cost, he said $75 to $100... :eek:

It will cost me like over $200. Maybe I can find a cheaper local shop to do it for me.

Anyway, i think 40 is too short, right? They've also got them in black.. There are so many of them!!
 

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I wouldn't trust *anything* but Chrysler ATF+4 inside the transmission, PERIOD. I don't care what ______ says about their stuff.... Chrysler transmissions are WAY too sensitive about what's running around inside.
 

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Phil....
I asked maineke for welding labor cost, he said $75 to $100... :eek:

It will cost me like over $200. Maybe I can find a cheaper local shop to do it for me.

Anyway, i think 40 is too short, right? They've also got them in black.. There are so many of them!!

If you're gonna drop that much on an exhaust, do a cat back system....like this one from Rusty's. All of his kits are designed for easy bolt on installation (i've personally put one on another Jeep before, and it was pretty straight forward...very easy to do.

As for which flow to go with, the only difference b/w the flow 40 and the flow 50 is that the 50 is slightly quieter. However, I would recommend that you go the DELTA 40 route (Rusty's systems come with Delta flowmasters vs. regulars). The difference b/w a delta and a regular 40 or 50 is the cabin noise. With the delta flowmaster, you still get the noticeable rumble of a flowmaster, yet can still hold a conversation at a normal voice or even listen to the radio inside the Jeep.
 

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As for which flow to go with, the only difference b/w the flow 40 and the flow 50 is that the 50 is slightly quieter. However, I would recommend that you go the DELTA 40 route (Rusty's systems come with Delta flowmasters vs. regulars). The difference b/w a delta and a regular 40 or 50 is the cabin noise. With the delta flowmaster, you still get the noticeable rumble of a flowmaster, yet can still hold a conversation at a normal voice or even listen to the radio inside the Jeep.


That rusty deal is a great one. Plus I can do it myself.
But this part got me worried.... "yet can still hold a conversation at a normal voice or even listen to the radio inside the Jeep." :eek: You mean you can't with regular flows? Phil, how about yours? Can't you?
 

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That rusty deal is a great one. Plus I can do it myself.
But this part got me worried.... "yet can still hold a conversation at a normal voice or even listen to the radio inside the Jeep." :eek: You mean you can't with regular flows? Phil, how about yours? Can't you?

I'm sure you still could, but there is a noticeable difference on the inside between the two. That and, a lot of people want a noisy exhaust, but dont want it to be noisy....if that makes sense....which is why the delta system is available.

The literal difference b/w the two is there is an extra chamber inside the delta muffler that helps reduce the interior noise.
 

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FWIW, I think you are going about things the right way. I'm was happy with my upgraded exhaust system and was from the moment i put it in. Not so much with the flash. Driving around normally, there isn't much of a difference, i might get slightly better gas mileage and a little extra power. Its at WOT where it seems to make the most difference, but how often do you have your foot to the floor?

Based on what you've posted and our pm's, i'm going to bet you'll be happier with the shift kit than the flash; especially if you can do it yourself and save the installation cost. I know its only a correction kit, but if there is something that's more likely to keep you from shifting into 4th too early, its the shift kit. I've been paying more attention the last few days to the shift points. The flash doesn't seem to have changed them while driving conservatively.
 

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