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Well I think my front struts are blowing out, evertime i hit a bump it hisses hisses at me. I have a revtek lift up front, and its not bad, and I have no complaints but I beat it real good. Looking to get ome HD fronts since I'm think about a bumper by this summer. SO HERES WHERE I NEED MY HELP my money tree in the backyard is dormant for the winter, so no frankenlift or rockfather as of it. Heres what I want 2 OME HD springs (with Rancho front struts #17505) that will net me the 1.5, Since I currently have 2.5, i dont want to go back to smaller, rocky road claims they're the only ones with the outside strut spacer, but to buy that seperately, is the the "front trim spacer" offered for 20 bucks? and what does the frankenlift provide then? I dont like the idea of the poly spacer, upper strut plates etc etc. but are there any problems with those on the frankenlift. I'm probably getting als arms, then the strut/spring so I dont mind going up higher. Pretty sure that's all I need. Thanks
 

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You could go with this:

FRONT ONLY FRANKENLIFT KITS:
FRONT Pre-Assembled FRANKENLIFT I: $504.44
http://www.boulderbars.com/frankenlift.htm


You can buy it from rocky road without the daystar strut plates for about 300 with shipping. thats the HD springs with rancho struts. Doesn't seem like the 200 extra is justified for the al's poly stuff and strut plates.
 

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You can buy it from rocky road without the daystar strut plates for about 300 with shipping. thats the HD springs with rancho struts. Doesn't seem like the 200 extra is justified for the al's poly stuff and strut plates.

It seems you answered your own question then :D
 

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It seems you answered your own question then :D

Sorta, I want to know what each has in it. Which is better. OME HD springs and 17505 struts are a given, that will only net me about 1.5-2inch tops, BUT Rockyroad offers a new strut plate and I'm not sure which one is the HD that I want (kj with front bumper winch or CRD with bumper winch, whatever one is the best for my gaser with bumper/winch) Now the frankenlift comes with a strut plate as well, but why the polyspacer? Does the frankenlift end up bigger/better then the rockfather?I plan on getting the lift and wont install until I get als arms, so whatever the better deal is
 

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From my research I've learned that OME HD coils and struts are among the best if you plan on offroading or carrying heavy loads. The frankenlift uses these parts and a custom poly spacer in order to make the lift a full 2.5 to 3". I'm still waiting to get mine (on order) so I'll let you know. The rocky road coil lift may be good but I do not know all the components that go in it. Frankenlift has the most positive reviews and if you are getting Al's A-Arms you might as well go with the biggest lift you can afford.
 

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I've been waiting for 2 weeks for my order to ship. It seems they don't have all the parts in stock. However, I got Al's A-Arms today and they are flaming!

Update: They've shipped and they should be in the next couple of days or so.
 
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Sorta, I want to know what each has in it. Which is better. OME HD springs and 17505 struts are a given, that will only net me about 1.5-2inch tops, BUT Rockyroad offers a new strut plate and I'm not sure which one is the HD that I want (kj with front bumper winch or CRD with bumper winch, whatever one is the best for my gaser with bumper/winch) Now the frankenlift comes with a strut plate as well, but why the polyspacer? Does the frankenlift end up bigger/better then the rockfather?I plan on getting the lift and wont install until I get als arms, so whatever the better deal is

RRO uses OME springs with a small 3/8" trim spacer on top of the strut assembly in the front to obtain 2.5" with No UBJ contact and no spring compression.

Frankinlift uses OME springs with a poly spacer within the spring-strut assembly which compresses the spring, along with a Day Star strut plate which nets around 3"-3.25" of front end lift. Some users have experienced UBJ contact as well as torn CV boots in the past.

I can't say which one is better, or even if either will hold up without sagging in the long run with an aftermarket bumper and winch, as I'm assuming both kits are using the H.D. 400 lb. rate OME coils.

When the CRD's first came out the Frakinlift with the 400 lb.rate coils would not work and had to use Day Star spacers instead, being that the engine was 200 lbs. heavier, and that weight being mostly centered over the front axle and springs. Now if you consider the average weight of 170 lbs for the bumper and winch combo, which is compounded by sitting roughly 3 ft. out in front of the axle, that would make it at least the same weight as the CRD.

All J's have recently offered the new OME 500 lb. rate OME coils for the CRD.
I recently e-mailed Heather to find out if these would also work for a Heavy Gaser with ARB and winch and full armor. She replied that they had installed them and were working well for a Heavy Gaser. However, she did not state if this was the spring alone or the CRD Frankinlift.

I'm guessing with the spring, that the small 3/8" trim spacer from RRO would be the easiest way to boost the height some, to attain 2.75"-3.00" in the front without futher compressing the spring with a poly spacer and creating even more spring tension and lenght to get that bottom clevis fork bolt back in during assembly.

Just some food for thought, as another option.
 
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Awesome. I recently emailed All J's wondering why there was now 4 options for springs, but as you cleared up, theres now a 500lb spring weight. Decisions Decisions. I see that with All J's like you said, some experienced torn boots/Upper contact, wont the new A arms fix that? Thanks
 

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Awesome. I recently emailed All J's wondering why there was now 4 options for springs, but as you cleared up, theres now a 500lb spring weight. Decisions Decisions. I see that with All J's like you said, some experienced torn boots/Upper contact, wont the new A arms fix that? Thanks

I'm sure they would help.

Just for a comparison, I installed a new set of stock CRD 410 lb. rate coils a year and a half ago with my RRO 2.125" combo kit and added 1/2" clevis lift. When I first took it down off the jackstands it was 37" at the flare. After less than a week it had settled to 35 1/2" at the flare with the weight of the ARB & winch.... It dropped 1 1/2", so I really don't see the 500 lb, rate coils being a problem of to stiff with the bumper and winch hanging out off the front end.
 
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I see that with All J's like you said, some experienced torn boots/Upper contact, wont the new A arms fix that? Thanks

That's what the A-arms are for. The reason that the ubj's rub on the coils is because the frankenlift raises the uper control arm so high causing the ubj to rub on the coil. The new A-arms correct this. Some people have problems and others do not. I decided to be proactive and get the A-Arms from the start. The A-arms also mean the mechanic can do a proper alignment on your vehicle after your lift since it corrects the 'angles'.
 

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I'm getting so excited. I have a good 12 inches of snow, and just bought a snow blower which set me back a G, so by next week I should order the Front Frankie and upper arms. WOOT WOOT
 

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Excited? me 2! :D

Ha. I'm currently loving my lift. love pulling up to those hot moms and looking down at their KJs (a girl i know once said liiike, omg whats a kj, my mom drives a liberty thing) My buddy that lives in my house has a columbia edition and once said "well, does yours have any leather(he has the leather edges) I said no, but when you end up in a ditch do you have tow points...what no hitch even? shit, i wont be pulling you out by that leather!
 
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