Kit Recommendations and parts lists

[1371]

Hi All, Kinda' new to this. My '05 limited needs new ball joints (upper and lower) and I was thinking of going for a 1.5"-2" lift kit. Can someone make a recommendation for an all inclusive kit and do they typically include ball joints or should I get them done before hand. Thanks!

 

[sleazy rider]

Do it all at once while you’ve got the suspension apart. I don’t think there’s a complete kit available, but one or two of the regulars will be by today to set that straight.

Lots of good reading here in this exact section on suspension lift info.

Lift faq: Read before asking questions!

What is the difference between a spacer and a coil lift? Spacer lifts retain the stock parts. You fit polyurethane (or sometimes metal) spacers to the stock components. It does require dis-assembly of the front strut assemblies. Daystar is the better spacer lift out there, but new lift coils...

www.jeepkj.com

 

[1371]

Thank you...

 

[tommudd]

NEVER EVER do a spacer lift, especially on a KJ or KK
don't even think about one
Do OME springs and either OME OR Bilstein shocks
complete list has been posted on here many times by me and other
If you can not find then I will ost again for you
Depending on year , MOOG problem solver greaseable lower ball joints in front, upper you have to change the whole control arm

 

[tommudd]

Do it all at once while you’ve got the suspension apart. I don’t think there’s a complete kit available, but one or two of the regulars will be by today to set that straight.

Lots of good reading here in this exact section on suspension lift info.

Lift faq: Read before asking questions!

What is the difference between a spacer and a coil lift? Spacer lifts retain the stock parts. You fit polyurethane (or sometimes metal) spacers to the stock components. It does require dis-assembly of the front strut assemblies. Daystar is the better spacer lift out there, but new lift coils...

www.jeepkj.com

OME has complete kits with one exception, well three , rear shocks are not long enough in that kit , plus no front or rear bumpstops included

 

[1371]

NEVER EVER do a spacer lift,
dont even think about one
Do OME springs and either OME OR Bilstein shocks
complete list has been posted on here many times by me and other
If you can not find then I will ost again for you
Depending on year , MOOG problem solver greaseable lower ball joints in front, upper you have to change the whole control arm

Yes, I've heard about spacers. I am looking to change out the upper control arms and all. I'm asking if ball joints are included because I've seen some upper control arms include them and it's in the shop now and my mechanic wants to change them now. I didn't want to have him do them just to replace them later when I get the $$ to buy the lift. I will look for the list. I really appreciate it.

 

[tommudd]

K80767 for lower ball joints by the way for your 05 ( greaseable )
Mevotech CMK3198 TTX for upper control arms , they are greaesable as well

 

[tommudd]

Never buy from Detroit Axle and other companies like that is you actually want to have any thing last a while

 

[tommudd]

OME 2927 and 2948 springs
Bilstein 24-139168 shocks for front
Teraflex 1903200 front bumpstops ( two ) have to call them as they have them in stock but not online catalog
Bilstein 33-18552 is a popular rear shock 2 of them
4 hockey pucks regulation size ( these will be used for bumpstops in the rear with holes drilled through them also drill through lower spring perch ( center ) and held in place by 3/8 inch bolt 2.25 or 2.5 inches long with nuts and washer ( on bottom ) of course
regular bolt, no carriage bolts or counter sink them into hockey pucks You'll thank me if you ever have to remove them

 

[sleazy rider]

OME has complete kits with one exception, well three , rear shocks are not long enough in that kit , plus no front or rear bumpstops included

Honestly, I haven’t been to their site to actually check. When we talked about it, things got put off due to $$ and travel. Mine’s still bone stock suspension wise and will probably end up staying that way. It rides well and has enough clearance for what I normally do. Now with the JK in the stable, it’ll probably get the call for playtime.

Heck, I almost let the youngest son take it to use permanently.

 

[tommudd]

Honestly, I haven’t been to their site to actually check. When we talked about it, things got put off due to $$ and travel. Mine’s still bone stock suspension wise and will probably end up staying that way. It rides well and has enough clearance for what I normally do. Now with the JK in the stable, it’ll probably get the call for playtime.

Heck, I almost let the youngest son take it to use permanently.

Anything over 60000 on a KJ stock suspension is junk
Heck at 200 miles on my 04 when I bought it new it was done, could not stand the soft ride bouncing over railroad tracks, pot holes etc
That is when I started gathering parts to lift it
What does your KJ measure , left front, middle of hub to bottom of flares
Ive had them come into my shop at just a bit over 70,000 and be almost two inches lower than stock height
Front springs were only rated at 310 lb where they should of been 340 to 350 lb

 

[sleazy rider]

Don’t misunderstand me. It’s stock height, but all refreshed with good stuff. I posted heights in my journal thread when I did it 5k miles ago.

 

[1371]

Anything over 60000 on a KJ stock suspension is junk
Heck at 200 miles on my 04 when I bought it new it was done, could not stand the soft ride bouncing over railroad tracks, pot holes etc
That is when I started gathering parts to lift it
What does your KJ measure , left front, middle of hub to bottom of flares
Ive had them come into my shop at just a bit over 70,000 and be almost two inches lower than stock height
Front springs were only rated at 310 lb where they should of been 340 to 350 lb

I'm going to check that measurement today. I'm sure you're right. A better ride is really all I'm looking for....

 

[Dirtyrat]

Hi All, Kinda' new to this. My '05 limited needs new ball joints (upper and lower) and I was thinking of going for a 1.5"-2" lift kit. Can someone make a recommendation for an all inclusive kit and do they typically include ball joints or should I get them done before hand. Thanks!

 

[Dirtyrat]

Don’t get the rocky roads upper control arms. Ball joints suck. Don’t seat all the way down on my kk. I went with the ome 3” lift kit.

 

[1371]

Don’t get the rocky roads upper control arms. Ball joints suck. Don’t seat all the way down on my kk. I went with the ome 3” lift kit.

Thank you. Do you notice any negative effects on handling with the 3" lift? This is my daily driver and have concerns about making too big a change...

 

[tommudd]

Thank you. Do you notice any negative effects on handling with the 3" lift? This is my daily driver and have concerns about making too big a change...

What I posted will give you 2.5 inches of lift and will ride and handle better than it did brand new
Ive done over 70 with the above mentioned parts and never a compalint with handling or ride
And yes stay away from Rocky Road

 

[1371]

What I posted will give you 2.5 inches of lift and will ride and handle better than it did brand new
Ive done over 70 with the above mentioned parts and never a compalint with handling or ride
And yes stay away from Rocky Road

I really appreciate everyone's input. I think I'm about to start down the rabbit hole... Could you give me a a recommendation for front hub assemblies? Moog?

 

[bp87]

OME 2927 and 2948 springs
Bilstein 24-139168 shocks for front
Teraflex 1903200 front bumpstops ( two ) have to call them as they have them in stock but not online catalog
Bilstein 33-18552 is a popular rear shock 2 of them
4 hockey pucks regulation size ( these will be used for bumpstops in the rear with holes drilled through them also drill through lower spring perch ( center ) and held in place by 3/8 inch bolt 2.25 or 2.5 inches long with nuts and washer ( on bottom ) of course
regular bolt, no carriage bolts or counter sink them into hockey pucks You'll thank me if you ever have to remove them

Is there any alternative to "Bilstein 33-18552". I'm in Canada. Cant seem to get this from my local shop

 

[klc]

Is there any alternative to "Bilstein 33-18552". I'm in Canada. Cant seem to get this from my local shop

If you can get Old Man Emu up there, try the N132L for the rear.