IslanderGU
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Does anyone have pics how to? Or a description? Thanks!!!
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Libby 05 removing rear sway bar
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CzarKJ
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Lift up the rear end then just a few bolts on each side. Then thread it right out.
IslanderGU
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So i just got it out... why? Cuz i like to take stuff apart. Now for the real reason... why do us libby junkies remove it???
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turblediesel
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Must be contageous.
I'd like to know this as well. In every car I've ever had, a rear sway (whether factory installed or added after the fact) has been to help in cornering performance. Why is the KJ platform so different that it helps to REMOVE it?
What about the front?
TwoBobsKJ
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It doesn't help the KJ to remove the rear sway bar - it's just that removing it causes no harm or concern. If you're working on the rear suspension and it's in the way you can remove it without worrying about rolling the KJ.
The rear sway bar on the Liberty isn't attached to anything but the lower control arms - no attachment at all to the body. Therefore no leverage is applied to the bar and so it has no effect on body lean. I've always thought it was there to keep Consumer Reports, government agencies and the like from pestering Chrysler about rollover issues with the KJ.
The front sway bar is completely different - DO NOT remove it! Crawl under the KJ and notice how the front sway bar is attached to both lower control arms AND the front cradle/body. Leverage is applied to the opposite end of the bar when downward or upward pressure is exerted on the bar from the lower control arm on the other side. So if the left control arm is being pushed down in a right turn the right control arm will also be pushed down, flattening the KJ body. At the same time the right control arm will be rising in a right turn and will try to push the left control arm up as well. The front design is simple and very effective and keeps the KJ reasonably level during a turn. But since the rear sway bar isn't attached to the body it is just unnecessary unsprung weight. Ditch it and don't look back.
Now, on to my 2nd cup of coffee :icon_cool:
Bob
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^^^^ What Bob said
Its basically useless , Like nipples on a boar hog......... :gr_grin:
Its basically useless , Like nipples on a boar hog......... :gr_grin:
dude1116
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It does a LITTLE less than nothing. It keeps the LCAs moving in the same fashion. You'll discover if you have bad rear LCA bushings REALLY quick when that bar comes out. Unless the top also is bad in which case your ass end is just loose as all get out.
Pulling it does actually help flex. I took mine out for my UCA setup.
Pulling it does actually help flex. I took mine out for my UCA setup.
its how i discovered my LCA bushings were crap
Thanks for the explanation, Bob. I'm aware of how a sway/anti-roll bar works, but I've never looked hard enough at the rear of a KJ to notice that it does not attach to the body at all.. well, that does make it less than useless, doesn't it!
And Tom, my dad used to same something similar, but it was the same organ on a bull. Equally as useless.
CactusJacked
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A frame mounted sway bar, like the front, stabilizes one wheel by putting twisting force on the other.
Our rear bar helps to stabilize body side sway. Remove the bar and the top control arm, and you'll be able to sway the rear axle left to right, turning the lower control arms into a parallelogram. The upper control arm helps prevent this, and with 2 mounting points on the lower control arms, the sway bar acts like a cross brace (think wind brace in construction). The side effect without the bar was extremely obvious as soon as I removed mine, the rearend was drifting side to side like a boat. That was mainly because my upper control arm was shot, didn't know it before. To say the sway bar does nothing isn't so, but it's effect without isn't noticeable with a new tight upper control arm. As things starts to wear and get sloppy, yes your rearend can start to feel a little squishy. The sway bar can also help to prevent premature wear on the upper control arm by taking up some of the side force.
Our rear bar helps to stabilize body side sway. Remove the bar and the top control arm, and you'll be able to sway the rear axle left to right, turning the lower control arms into a parallelogram. The upper control arm helps prevent this, and with 2 mounting points on the lower control arms, the sway bar acts like a cross brace (think wind brace in construction). The side effect without the bar was extremely obvious as soon as I removed mine, the rearend was drifting side to side like a boat. That was mainly because my upper control arm was shot, didn't know it before. To say the sway bar does nothing isn't so, but it's effect without isn't noticeable with a new tight upper control arm. As things starts to wear and get sloppy, yes your rearend can start to feel a little squishy. The sway bar can also help to prevent premature wear on the upper control arm by taking up some of the side force.
Cardhu
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Ditch it. When you replace your rear UCA its in the way.
Towed my boat for years (3000lbs) no difference. The flex is limited though it is, is worth it.
Towed my boat for years (3000lbs) no difference. The flex is limited though it is, is worth it.
