Looking for Aftermarket Components WITH Bass

[dude1116]

Hey All!

I can really use some suggestions. I'm looking for an aftermarket component set of speakers that gets nearly as much bass as the factory Infinity speakers, but are much more clear. I know that's really tough to ask for in an aftermarket speaker (being that most aftermarket speakers are meant for clarity and not bass, and most people that overhaul their system get a sub...which may end up coming later). Any good suggestions out there? Or am I asking too much?

Thanks all! :cheers:

 

[teckman02]

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i have done business with them for years than buying a set have you thought about building your own component setup?

 

[dude1116]

check Parts Express: the #1 source for audio, video & speaker building components

i have done business with them for years than buying a set have you thought about building your own component setup?

Nah just looking for simple install components that come with the woofer, tweeter, and crossover. I've been looking at reviews through Crutchfield but I like all of your guys' opinions better so I figured I'd ask.

 

[eradicator006]

I recently put in a set of the Hertz DSK165.3 and am pleased with them. I'd say they have a fair bit of bass. They have a higher sensitivity rating so they can get quite loud on lower power. I run mine off of a 2x200 watt amp but they also do great off of regular deck power.

 

[dude1116]

I recently put in a set of the Hertz DSK165.3 and am pleased with them. I'd say they have a fair bit of bass. They have a higher sensitivity rating so they can get quite loud on lower power. I run mine off of a 2x200 watt amp but they also do great off of regular deck power.

I've got a relatively older aftermarket HU. Not the best in quality but it gets the job done (I originally got it for the 3.5mm input). I'm glad you say they're good off of regular deck power. That's very encouraging. Thank you for the suggestion!!

Still open to others please!!! :cheers:

 

[cplchris]

i just finished installing a set of polk db6501's and the fronts are rockford fosgate 6.5" components, running off of an alpine 180 watt power pack amp, (45 watts rms x 4 channels) excellent sound quality and plenty of bass. my current head unit is a pioneer deh 5900ib, (i've had it since 2006), just bought a deh-80prs for 260 shipped though

 

[dude1116]

i just finished installing a set of polk db6501's and the fronts are rockford fosgate 6.5" components, running off of an alpine 180 watt power pack amp, (45 watts rms x 4 channels) excellent sound quality and plenty of bass. my current head unit is a pioneer deh 5900ib, (i've had it since 2006), just bought a deh-80prs for 260 shipped though

How are the components' bass levels? I'm not planning on getting a sub any time soon so is it substantial? I have Polks in my back doors and I'd say they have JUST enough bass to satisfy me. Do you think I need an amp? Or do you think they'll be OK off of deck power (I don't know the specs of my deck...but it's aftermarket and better than stock).

 

[cplchris]

chances are your deck is putting between 14 and 22 watts to each speaker, the alpine ktp-445u amp i have is meant to run speakers only not a sub. here is a quick run down of my setup:
pioneer deh5900ib: equalizer levels all set below 0, HPF set at 63Hz, bass setting at 0 (goes up to 6)
alpine ktp-445u: 4 channel 180watt amp (45 watts rms per channel), hpf is off, front and rear gain are in between the 1st and 2nd marks (it has 8 or 10 total) this amp only costs 150, (can be found cheaper online)
i also ran all new wire to the speakers (14awg), this setup provides very good base, if you want more base than what a setup like this gives you need to invest in a subwoofer, i would recommend getting a 6 or 8" shallow mount and a small dedicated amp for the sub. which polk speakers do you currently have in the back?

 

[eradicator006]

chances are your deck is putting between 14 and 22 watts to each speaker, the alpine ktp-445u amp i have is meant to run speakers only not a sub. here is a quick run down of my setup:
pioneer deh5900ib: equalizer levels all set below 0, HPF set at 63Hz, bass setting at 0 (goes up to 6)
alpine ktp-445u: 4 channel 180watt amp (45 watts rms per channel), hpf is off, front and rear gain are in between the 1st and 2nd marks (it has 8 or 10 total) this amp only costs 150, (can be found cheaper online)
i also ran all new wire to the speakers (14awg), this setup provides very good base, if you want more base than what a setup like this gives you need to invest in a subwoofer, i would recommend getting a 6 or 8" shallow mount and a small dedicated amp for the sub. which polk speakers do you currently have in the back?

Any tips on running new speaker wire? I've heard it can be quite challenging. I'm currently using the existing wire but would prefer new.

Thanks.

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[cplchris]

its pretty straight forward, get yourself a nylon fish tape and a small set of fish sticks (for pulling wire, not for eating), the fronts were a bit of a pain to do but aside from that everthing went smooth.

 

[TheBlueKJ]

Crutchfield. It's all about crutchfield. Not only Superb CS but they give you many required parts you need for free or at a steep discount.

 

[dude1116]

chances are your deck is putting between 14 and 22 watts to each speaker, the alpine ktp-445u amp i have is meant to run speakers only not a sub. here is a quick run down of my setup:
pioneer deh5900ib: equalizer levels all set below 0, HPF set at 63Hz, bass setting at 0 (goes up to 6)
alpine ktp-445u: 4 channel 180watt amp (45 watts rms per channel), hpf is off, front and rear gain are in between the 1st and 2nd marks (it has 8 or 10 total) this amp only costs 150, (can be found cheaper online)
i also ran all new wire to the speakers (14awg), this setup provides very good base, if you want more base than what a setup like this gives you need to invest in a subwoofer, i would recommend getting a 6 or 8" shallow mount and a small dedicated amp for the sub. which polk speakers do you currently have in the back?

Currently running Polk Audio DB651. I'm totally open minded to run a sub if I can't get a setup to run enough bass for me. Nothing major. I don't need to be one of those low-riding rigs with 2 12 inches in the back. I like tasteful, and clear.

 

[dude1116]

Crutchfield. It's all about crutchfield. Not only Superb CS but they give you many required parts you need for free or at a steep discount.

Totally aware of this. Just looking for brand-name and speaker-type suggestions. I'm aware of all of my purchasing options and methods to get what I need! :cheers:

 

[TheBlueKJ]

Currently running Polk Audio DB651. I'm totally open minded to run a sub if I can't get a setup to run enough bass for me. Nothing major. I don't need to be one of those low-riding rigs with 2 12 inches in the back. I like tasteful, and clear.

Your running polk. It doesn't get any better than that. If you want more bass I suggest putting a sub in the back, depending on how much bass you want go for a size you think will suit your needs. To maximize space put the amp (and capacitor if you want to use one) under the rear seats. If you want to get really fancy people have made the swingout into a sub box and spot for the amp to hide and maintain stock cargo space.

EDIT: I'm currently running a 12" Sony Xplod sub with a 760 watt pioneer amp and it sounds amazing.

 

[Snail Farmer]

I don't need to be one of those low-riding rigs with 2 12 inches in the back. I like tasteful, and clear.

I wish I was closer to you. I would let you listen to mine. I consider myself an audiophile. I like my music loud, crisp, and clear. There are two different kind of subs. SQ or SPL. SQ = Sound Quality, SPL = Sound Pressure Level. Now when you hear someone drive by and their stereo sounds like crap and shakes to whole world, that's because most people buy SPL subs and turn the EQ on their deck way up to get as much bass as possible, and yes, that makes it sound like crap. I used to install systems in the past. I would always recommend SQ subs and I would let people listen to mine to show the clarity. If you use SQ subs and get an amp that powers them correctly, you leave the EQ on your deck at zero, and use the gain on the amp to adjust the level, you would be amazed how it sounds. And no you don't need 2 subs to achieve a good sound, but having 2 doesn't automatically mean it sounds like crap.

 

[TheBlueKJ]

I wish I was closer to you. I would let you listen to mine. I consider myself an audiophile. I like my music loud, crisp, and clear. There are two different kind of subs. SQ or SPL. SQ = Sound Quality, SPL = Sound Pressure Level. Now when you hear someone drive by and their stereo sounds like crap and shakes to whole world, that's because most people buy SPL subs and turn the EQ on their deck way up to get as much bass as possible, and yes, that makes it sound like crap. I used to install systems in the past. I would always recommend SQ subs and I would let people listen to mine to show the clarity. If you use SQ subs and get an amp that powers them correctly, you leave the EQ on your deck at zero, and use the gain on the amp to adjust the level, you would be amazed how it sounds. And no you don't need 2 subs to achieve a good sound, but having 2 doesn't automatically mean it sounds like crap.

I did not know this. Learn something new everyday! And this is very useful info :Rock on:

 

[dude1116]

Your running polk. It doesn't get any better than that. If you want more bass I suggest putting a sub in the back, depending on how much bass you want go for a size you think will suit your needs. To maximize space put the amp (and capacitor if you want to use one) under the rear seats. If you want to get really fancy people have made the swingout into a sub box and spot for the amp to hide and maintain stock cargo space.

EDIT: I'm currently running a 12" Sony Xplod sub with a 760 watt pioneer amp and it sounds amazing.

Not looking to get a sub yet! Those Polks are only in the back. They're definitely crisp and clear and I love the hell out of them. Most of my bass is coming from the stock components in the front now. So I'm looking to not lose TOO much, but I know it's almost inevitable since aftermarket speakers lack bass to boost clarity, which is 100% OK. I just want to make sure I still have a great amount of kick with a new set of speakers in the front. If it's not too possible, I wouldn't mind adding in a sub.

I wish I was closer to you. I would let you listen to mine. I consider myself an audiophile. I like my music loud, crisp, and clear. There are two different kind of subs. SQ or SPL. SQ = Sound Quality, SPL = Sound Pressure Level. Now when you hear someone drive by and their stereo sounds like crap and shakes to whole world, that's because most people buy SPL subs and turn the EQ on their deck way up to get as much bass as possible, and yes, that makes it sound like crap. I used to install systems in the past. I would always recommend SQ subs and I would let people listen to mine to show the clarity. If you use SQ subs and get an amp that powers them correctly, you leave the EQ on your deck at zero, and use the gain on the amp to adjust the level, you would be amazed how it sounds. And no you don't need 2 subs to achieve a good sound, but having 2 doesn't automatically mean it sounds like crap.

Great info to know! I actually had no idea. Definitely don't think 2 automatically means it sounds like crap but I know one tastefully powered and tuned sub will be plenty for my needs, while leaving enough trunk space and not rattling every window and door within a one block radius. Thank you so much for the post!

 

[TheBlueKJ]

Great info to know! I actually had no idea. Definitely don't think 2 automatically means it sounds like crap but I know one tastefully powered and tuned sub will be plenty for my needs, while leaving enough trunk space and not rattling every window and door within a one block radius. Thank you so much for the post!

I've got one perfectly set up sub that gives lot's of kick and is very crisp and clear even at a higher bass and volume setting. I can still get it to shake all the doors and mirrors of everything around me if I really wanted to though :Big Laugh:

 

[cplchris]

Currently running Polk Audio DB651. I'm totally open minded to run a sub if I can't get a setup to run enough bass for me. Nothing major. I don't need to be one of those low-riding rigs with 2 12 inches in the back. I like tasteful, and clear.

if you are running them front and rear, get something like the alpine ktp-445u and run them off of that, if you are still not satisfied with that then i would sell the 651's (coaxial) and step it up to 6501's (component) i mounted the rear tweeter to the c pillar panel by the passenger rear seats, they have more than enough bass to keep me happy. the difference between a coaxial and a component is that the crossover filters and sends the right frequencies to each driver instead of just relying on what the driver can reproduce, this allows for better sound quality at higher volume levels.

 

[cplchris]

Crutchfield. It's all about crutchfield. Not only Superb CS but they give you many required parts you need for free or at a steep discount.

crutchfields pricing is meh, they charge 350 for a pioneer deh-80prs and they include 40 bucks worth of install parts, i got my deh-80prs on amazon for 260 brand new in the box, so even if i go to a local audio shop and get all of the install stuff im still 50 bucks ahead of the game. but i already have a single din dash adapter and everything else i need so im saving almost $100.