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[Cpt Marvel]

I'm a mail man in Nashville. I have a business on my route called Custom Slings. They make all kindsa shit for wreckers, cranes and what not. They even made Qtips to sling load howitzers from ch47 aircraft. Anyway, I went in there today and asked the dude about making me a setup to hook to front tow hooks for recovery operations so that I wouldn't be pulling on just one front hook. After a conversation, he pulled what is in the pics from the wall and said "Merry Christmas". Cool aye?

 

[LibertyTC]

The front OEM hooks are only good if is someone is pulling you out.
If you have to pull someone else out, drive forward, using the rear hitch.
10 feet is really not long enough. Edit I think I have rear clevis & two 25 footers in the Jeep.

 

[Cardhu]

As mentioned, long as your the one being pulled the fronts are great as you intend to use the sling to distribute load across two hooks.

Your front diff is less robust when pulling in reverse and you should turn to the hitch toward the recovery.

 

[Cpt Marvel]

Gotta O ring in the hitch. This for the front. I just thought it was great because it was FREE! Now y'all done hurt my feelings

 

[M38 Bob]

Gotta O ring in the hitch. This for the front. I just thought it was great because it was FREE! Now y'all done hurt my feelings

Don't blame ya. If most of these "instructors" had been given it as a gift it would revolutionize pulling procedures.:emotions34:

Bob

 

[tommudd]

Gotta O ring in the hitch. This for the front. I just thought it was great because it was FREE! Now y'all done hurt my feelings

It was a great freebie for sure
Don't have hurt feelings everyone is just trying to help ya out:shrug::icon_lol:

 

[Cpt Marvel]

Snivel...

 

[Cpt Marvel]

I will tell anyone interested in this kind of thing: when I was in the 101st Airborne, this particular company was contracted to design and build what we called "QTips". They were used to sling load 8 inch howitzers under CH47 aircraft. These guys know their shit, be it rope, cable or chain.

 

[HoosierJeeper]

Got the hooks on yet? I want to see this thing in action!

 

[Cpt Marvel]

Got the hooks on yet? I want to see this thing in action!

LOL! No. Been working. Now my daughters Mazda is throwing evap codes. Have to play with that today.

 

[LibertyTC]

I really don't want to "hurt" anyone's feelings, however for safety, I want to expand this conversation to include further cautions about use of the OEM tow hooks, so no one or KJ gets "hurt" !!
Imagine you are stuck deep in the mud and a pull is required from another vehicle ahead.
How do you estimate the additional load required to pull the KJ out?
Even spread evenly across the two front tow hooks, ask yourself are the hooks/ mount & uni-body really strong enough for this pull?
Anyone who has had their plastic bumper off, or even looked the two factory tow hook's thin mounts, should realize....ah...maybe this is not the strongest set up!!!
And realize something else...it was made for a light duty tug.
Options for strength, a new well designed Arb or RL for instance, mounted front bumper.
Or a Detours backbone.
Front receiver hmmmm...
Found this thread: http://www.jeepkj.com/forum/f196/new-tow-hooks-58466/
Good reading ..reinforcements please! :whip:

 

[HoosierJeeper]

The towhooks are fine for a straight pull especially using both of them.

 

[tommudd]

The towhooks are fine for a straight pull especially using both of them.

YES, with what the OP has, a straight pull would distribute the weight/ pull on both sides. If pulling off to one side then more force would be on the nearest one to the tow vehicle.

 

[tommudd]

I really don't want to "hurt" anyone's feelings, however for safety, I want to expand this conversation to include further cautions about use of the OEM tow hooks, so no one or KJ gets "hurt" !!
Imagine you are stuck deep in the mud and a pull is required from another vehicle ahead.
How do you estimate the additional load required to pull the KJ out?
Even spread evenly across the two front tow hooks, ask yourself are the hooks/ mount & uni-body really strong enough for this pull?
Anyone who has had their plastic bumper off, or even looked the two factory tow hook's thin mounts, should realize....ah...maybe this is not the strongest set up!!!
And realize something else...it was made for a light duty tug.
Options for strength, a new well designed Arb or RL for instance, mounted front bumper.
Or a Detours backbone.
Front receiver hmmmm...
Found this thread: http://www.jeepkj.com/forum/f196/new-tow-hooks-58466/
Good reading ..reinforcements please! :whip:

Or the Matrix Brush Guard, very good/ strong mounting points and has places for hi-lift and holes on both sides for installing a clevis
also has bracket that bolts in side to side to strengthen side pulls etc

 

[Dave]

Yeah, pulling people out of mud is tough. I have been pulled out of mud with a 30 foot strap attached to both my front hooks to even the pull as much as possible and easy does it. But if you are doing the pulling you do not ever want to use your front hooks and try to back-pull in reverse.


I pulled a Jeep out of the mud and he was in a ditch also ....with a shackle and bar in my rear tow hitch hooked up to a 20 foot strap and I was on slippery grass in low range and ****** in first gear and real easy does it. It was a really tight spot between trees and I could barely get in there and have enough room to pull him out. I honestly thought I was going to have a lot of trouble but I pulled him right out. I was able to get enough good traction and there is a lot of pulling torque in low range.


You always have to be real extra careful trying to strap someone out as things can go wrong in a hurry.


Dave

 

[Cpt Marvel]

Was just kidding about the "feelings".
Thing. I don't have any. I'm a male in my mid 50s, LOL! Seriously, I was H8 trained in the military. Vehicle recovery operations, wheeled and track. Bogged in mud pulling through the recovered vehicles own tracks figure about 150% of recovered vehicle weight. Pulling in other direction or up slope, 200%. I'm just using this thing for snow. I think it'll work just fine, front hooks or rear pintle.

 

[tommudd]

You always have to be real extra careful trying to strap someone out as things can go wrong in a hurry.


Dave

:icon_lol:No kidding, last year down at my home place 10:30 or so in the evening, someones knocking on the door. Couple of guys slid off the hill road, lodged themselves in some trees, ( lucky they did since 20 foot back up the hill and nothing to stop you for about 7-800 foot. )
They said they had tow hooks, they hooked to theirs, tighten the strap didn't get 3 foot and tow hook pulled off, hook to the next one " its way stronger" yells one of the guys, just put pressure on again, he comes off :happy175:
Finally around the front diff ( old Ford Ranger ) and drug them out
One guy was like " Man your Jeep is really powerful, pulled those tow hooks right off and I welded them on good " Yeah yeah thats what it was its soooooo powerful

 

[M38 Bob]

I really don't want to "hurt" anyone's feelings, however for safety, I want to expand this conversation to include further cautions about use of the OEM tow hooks, so no one or KJ gets "hurt" !!
Imagine you are stuck deep in the mud and a pull is required from another vehicle ahead.
How do you estimate the additional load required to pull the KJ out?
Even spread evenly across the two front tow hooks, ask yourself are the hooks/ mount & uni-body really strong enough for this pull?
Anyone who has had their plastic bumper off, or even looked the two factory tow hook's thin mounts, should realize....ah...maybe this is not the strongest set up!!!
And realize something else...it was made for a light duty tug.
Options for strength, a new well designed Arb or RL for instance, mounted front bumper.
Or a Detours backbone.
Front receiver hmmmm...
Found this thread: http://www.jeepkj.com/forum/f196/new-tow-hooks-58466/
Good reading ..reinforcements please! :whip:

Worst thing you're apt to do is convince some of these "nervous nellies" that perhaps they should look for something more substantial to hook to up front. Like the tie rod end, or sway bar, or something. :emotions34:

Bob

 

[Cpt Marvel]

Worst thing you're apt to do is convince some of these "nervous nellies" that perhaps they should look for something more substantial to hook to up front. Like the tie rod end, or sway bar, or something. :emotions34:

Bob

Just thread the strap thru the grill. It'll fit. In my years as wrecker operator, I've been called out on late nights were GIs have done some really dumb shit!

 

[CzarKJ]

Just thread the strap thru the grill. It'll fit. In my years as wrecker operator, I've been called out on late nights were GIs have done some really dumb shit!

I actually pulled a subaru out of a snow bank from the radiator support. I had the owner hook it up and I asked him for half an hour if he was sure. Well his front end was smashed in then I pulled it out for him haha