It is true that I do not know all the mounting points on a ARB bumper but thanks for informing this ''Nerb''on that, I know that the geometry of the two types are different on their impact angles, the brush guard will swing and fold and the ARB will try to push straight in. The idea of the thread was to show off how pretty you can make a liberty if it is only town driven, not to be put down because it is not lifted or has no big chunky bumper and wheels as this forum seems to cater for.
Everyone has done a lot of various stuff to their Jeeps in one form or another and I praise them for that whether I like it or not, the main thing is that they like it and I respect them for that.
You mentioned real world comparisons, I wonder how comparing a GM pickup to a liberty in front end damage cost real world? Wrong comparison I think. Lets face it, the odds of me hitting a deer in town are pretty low plus I have had no accidents in 20yrs, not saying it can not happen.
You are obviously a true die hard 4x4 guy and hats off to you for that, it takes a special type of person to trail blaze. But us ''Townies"" like a different path and in my view if you own a Jeep no matter what type or what you have done to it then I like it. Have a good day.