HOW TO: Change your Power Steering fluid

[ShafferNY]

I bought one of these a long time a go.

http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=95468

When I had my '66 Bronco it had a Ford 9" rear and the only way to get the fluid out is with a suction gun.

 

[Jeeps_DONT_Flip]

Okay. My Jeep has regular power steering fluid, but from researching I hear that ATF 4 is better and will better stop the whining noise. My question is, can I change over to ATF 4 without any problems?

 

[AlexKJ]

Okay. My Jeep has regular power steering fluid, but from researching I hear that ATF 4 is better and will better stop the whining noise. My question is, can I change over to ATF 4 without any problems?

Only if you do a complete flush... the Mopar Steering Fluid and ATF cannot be mixed.

Cheers

 

[trophyslayer]

Only if you do a complete flush... the Mopar Steering Fluid and ATF cannot be mixed.

Cheers

How would you do a complete flush?

I don't think I would need to flush my steering fluid based on the chart here
http://dodgeram.info/tsb/2003/19-005-03.htm
in the factory fill section

i have 2002 jeep liberty renegade v6 3.7l so, hopefully the sucking out/filling, then moving the steering wheel back and forth, then repeating few times will be ok

 

[AlexKJ]

I don't think I would need to flush my steering fluid based on the chart here
http://dodgeram.info/tsb/2003/19-005-03.htm
in the factory fill section

i have 2002 jeep liberty renegade v6 3.7l

Idk if you need to perform a complete flush... But since you have a 2002, from factory you must have Power Steering Fluid... Only since 2004 KJ's were filled with ATF+4.

Cheers!

 

[RageOfFury]

According to the work orders I collected, the power steering system was flushed at 20k miles. Doesn't say however what fluid they used. I guess I'll dip my finger into the reservoir and see what fluid they used. Suppose to be ATF+4, but ya never know.

 

[trophyslayer]

Idk if you need to perform a complete flush... But since you have a 2002, from factory you must have Power Steering Fluid... Only since 2004 KJ's were filled with ATF+4.

Cheers!

your right, I do have Power Steering Fluid and I was going to swich it to the ATF+4 but the return line for the Power Steering Fluid seemed like more work to get at to do a full flush then I wanted to do, so i am just going to suck out old fluid buy some freash Power Steering Fluid refill, start engine, turn wheel back and forth, and repeat a few times

 

[trophyslayer]

got some pyroil ps from advance auto parts (gallon size)for under 16$ (would have gotten valvoline but they were out)

valvoline, castrol and pyroil all say on there containers that they meet Chrysler Spec. 5931,

prestone ps says on the bottle that they meet service requirements of chrysler, but dosn't mention that particular spec. I emailed them and they said "if you vechicle calls for regular power steering fluid there's will work"

sucked out the old fluid and refilled, then turned the wheel back and forth, will do a few more cyles of this about ever other week

 

[bmrrwolfe]

I got to do this soon when i do all the fluid changes, i just wonder if they have ATF+4 or power steering fluid in my 06 right now....

 

[trophyslayer]

I got to do this soon when i do all the fluid changes, i just wonder if they have ATF+4 or power steering fluid in my 06 right now....

Originally Posted by AlexKJ
Idk if you need to perform a complete flush... But since you have a 2002, from factory you must have Power Steering Fluid... Only since 2004 KJ's were filled with ATF+4.
Cheers!

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probably atf+4 can you tell does it look redish in color, regular power steering fluid is clearish/amber(orangeish/yellow)

now the fluid maybe dirty and look black like mine did, also your owners manual will say to either use power steering fluid or atf+4

 

[shadowk99]

OK I read threw the whole post and I still have a puzzled look on my face, it seems to be unclear what type of steering fluid was originally used for the KJ and what steering fluid it is to be replaced with. It would be nice if some one can confirm if ATF+4 is to be used or Power Steering Fluid MS-5931 or MS993. I found a PDF of the service bulletin in this post and it states this

KJ 2002 - 2004 FACTORY FILL POWER STEERING FLUID MS9602
KJ 2002 - 2004 APPROVED SERVICE POWER STEERING FLUID MS9602

Are their any newer TSBs that state different or can I safely assume that my 2002 has ATF+4 for the power steering ?

EDIT just found an other TSB with information regarding 02 - 06 KJ again stating they are to have ATF+4

Steering - Power Steering Fluid Usage

NUMBER: 19-005-03

GROUP: Steering

DATE: Aug. 29, 2003

THIS BULLETIN SUPERSEDES SERVICE BULLETIN 19-007-01, DATED AUG. 2, 2001, WHICH SHOULD BE REMOVED FROM YOUR FILES. THIS IS A COMPLETE REVISION AND NO ASTERISKS HAVE BEEN USED TO HIGHLIGHT REVISIONS.

SUBJECT:
Power Steering Fluid Usage

MODELS:

1993 - 2003 (AB) Ram Van
1994 - 2004 (AN) Dakota
1994 - 2002 (BR/BE) Ram Pickup
2004 (CS) Pacifica
1998-2004 (DN) Durango
2002 - 2004 (DR) Ram Pickup
1996 - 2000 (GS) Chrysler Voyager (International Markets)
1995 - 2000 (JA) Cirrus/Stratus/Breeze
2001 - 2004 (JR) Sebring Sedan, Stratus Sedan1 Sebring Convertible
1996 - 2000 (JX) Sebring Convertible
2002 - 2004 (KJ) Liberty
2002 - 2004 (KJ) Cherokee (International Markets)
1993 - 2004 (LH) Concorde/Intrepid/Vision/LHS/New Yorker/300M
1996 - 2000 (NS) Town & Country/Voyager/Caravan
2002 (PG) Chrysler PT Cruiser (International Markets)
1995-2004 (PL) Neon
1997 - 2003 (PR) Prowler
2002 - 2004 (PT) Chrysler PT Cruiser
2001 - 2004 (RG) Chrysler Voyager (International Markets)
2001 - 2004 (RS) Town & Country/Caravan/Voyager
1993 - 2002 (SR) Viper/Viper Coupe
2001 - 2004 (ST) Sebring Coupe/Stratus Coupe
1997 - 2004 (TJ) Wrangler
2003 - 2004 (VA) Sprinter
1999 - 2004 (WG) Grand Cherokee (International Markets)
1999-2004 (WJ) Grand Cherokee
2003 - 2004 (ZB) Viper
2004 (ZH) Crossfire

DISCUSSION:

The factory fill power steering fluid for most 2004 model year Chrysler Group vehicles is ATF+4 (MS9602) and it provides superior performance at both low and high temperatures. WJ/WG and ZH vehicles use unique power steering fluids. Refer to the table to identify factory fill and the approved service power steering fluid by year and model. Note that MS9602 is Red in color and MS5931 and MS9933 are Amber/Yellow in color. All three fluids will darken in color with usage and fluid color is no longer an indication of fluid condition.

The part numbers for MS9602 are 05013457AA (quart) and 05013458AA (gallon). The part number for MS5931 is 04883077 (quart). The part number for MB345 is 05127381AA.

MS9602 should not be mixed or used as a "topping off" fluid on systems requiring MS5931. On some past models, MS9602 should be used as the replacement fluid. On these models, if a power steering system is being serviced that results in a large fluid loss, such as a pump, hose or gear/rack replacement, the complete system should be drained and filled with MS9602.

NOTE :This bulletin supersedes owner's and service manuals for the vehicles listed above that may state to use MS9933 in the power steering system, and that may state not to use automatic transmission fluid in the power steering system.
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[shadowk99]

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[yellocoyote]

The power steering in my 2002 takes ATF+4... I think that's what you're asking.

 

[mag03kj]

The power steering in my 2002 takes ATF+4... I think that's what you're asking.

ATF+4? Aint that trans. fluid?

 

[yellocoyote]

Yep.

 

[shadowk99]

Yup ATF+4 is trans fluid and it goes in you power steering as well when you own a jeep

 

[shadowk99]

other than colour (seeing as my fluid is old ) is their a way to identifly the fluid that in my power steering system a the moment ?